Cultural Backlash: An Open Post
Sep. 23rd, 2025 11:38 amThere were some interesting discussions on yesterday's Magic Monday post and on the past month's or so posts on the Ecosophia blog regarding the collapse of alternative spirituality in the West and a likely impending cultural backlash against decades of general rot and grubbiness that is decaying our civilization from within.
Some of us here in the US are afraid that a sudden cultural jolt in the other direction, away from leftism/progressivism, will result in any type of spirituality that doesn't fit a narrow, literalist Christian/Abrahamic format as being seen by the reaction mob as "part of the problem." Anything the people leading and directing this backlash deem to be adjacent to the aforementioned cultural rot will be lazily lumped together into one big, bad conspiracy against what they believe they are trying to save and preserve. This likely means anything occult/esoteric, overtly pagan, or too foreign will be included, with very little nuance. As we know, the moral collapse of both Neopaganism and the postmodern occult scene hasn't helped matters at all in this respect, especially in light of recent tragic events.
Anyway, I want to know what anyone else here thinks of this and anything in your own area (US or somewhere else) you have seen indicative of a new cultural direction that may or or may not involve the condemnation of the things I listed above (or anything else that comes to mind). Also, we could use this space to think up ideas on how to preserve and carry on various spiritual teachings and practices if/when an intolerant religious climate becomes reality.
This is an open post that will stay open for quite a long time.
Some of us here in the US are afraid that a sudden cultural jolt in the other direction, away from leftism/progressivism, will result in any type of spirituality that doesn't fit a narrow, literalist Christian/Abrahamic format as being seen by the reaction mob as "part of the problem." Anything the people leading and directing this backlash deem to be adjacent to the aforementioned cultural rot will be lazily lumped together into one big, bad conspiracy against what they believe they are trying to save and preserve. This likely means anything occult/esoteric, overtly pagan, or too foreign will be included, with very little nuance. As we know, the moral collapse of both Neopaganism and the postmodern occult scene hasn't helped matters at all in this respect, especially in light of recent tragic events.
Anyway, I want to know what anyone else here thinks of this and anything in your own area (US or somewhere else) you have seen indicative of a new cultural direction that may or or may not involve the condemnation of the things I listed above (or anything else that comes to mind). Also, we could use this space to think up ideas on how to preserve and carry on various spiritual teachings and practices if/when an intolerant religious climate becomes reality.
This is an open post that will stay open for quite a long time.
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Date: 2025-10-05 04:01 pm (UTC)The archetype that links them all is what Dumezil (taking his cue from another comparatist whose name escapes me right now) called the Lawful Sovereign. What is particularly striking about this figure in myth is that he seems to have an eschatological function - that is to say, he comes at the *end* of a cycle, to complete a cosmic struggle, clear away the old world, and restore order. The Buddhist Maitreya is etymologically linked to Mithras, for example, while the Iranian version, the Saoshyant, is also known as 'airyaman', recalling Mitra's attendant (and possible double) Aryaman in the Vedas.
What I find even more interesting is that this mythic association with the end-times seems to be reflected in the history of religion; Mithras seemed to take a little bit of a backseat in Iranian religion with the rise of Zoroastrianism, but then he reappears, totally unexpectedly, in the later days of the Roman Empire - towards the end of the historical cycle in which Rome was born, flourished, and ultimately perished.
With tensions flaring up in *Iran*, of all places, I would not be surprised if this isn't the last we hear from Mithras...
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