Nov. 22nd, 2018

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I've seen this claim asserted by numerous Vedic/Yogic gurus, and of course Hindu nationalists. While the ancient traditions that influenced what we know today as Hinduism are probably very old indeed and go back far into prehistory, the Sanskrit language itself, from a linguistic standpoint is certainly not the oldest, nor did it originate in India. Both linguistic and genetic evidence strongly suggests that the language has its origins in a geographic area ranging from Eastern Europe to Central Asia -- i.e. the Eurasian steppes.

Sankskrit is an Indo-European (IE) language belonging to the Indo-Iranian branch, which includes all the Indo-Aryan languages derived from Sanskrit, in addition to the various Iranian languages like Persian, Kurdish, Pashto, Ossetian, and many others. Old Vedic Sanskrit and Avestan (the language of the oldest Zoroastrian scriptures) are so similar that it can be argued that they can be considered two dialects of the same ancient language; this language itself is probably a form of proto-Indo-Iranian, which in turn is an offshoot of the language the Corded Ware Culture of Eastern Europe spoke about 4,500 years ago. The Western branch of the Corded Ware, the language of those who remained in Eastern Europe and migrated further West, was probably the ancestral tongue of the Balto-Slavic branch of the IE tree. Indeed if we compare Sanskrit to other IE languages we find the greatest degree of lexical similarities with the Baltic and Slavic languages of today.



Long story short, the peoples who brought Indo-Iranian languages to Central and South Asia were from the steppes, probably nomadic horseback-riding warrior tribes. These quite-mobile migrants conquered many lands and assimilated the locals of whatever places they brought under their dominion. There is much genetic evidence to back up this hypothesis. The primary male Y-haplogroup of Eastern Europe is R1a. And indeed in Indo-Iranian speaking populations we see a high frequency of R1a among males. In Northern India we find R1a somewhat common among men of Brahminical lineages, and less common among those of other modern Indian populations, yet still there. And in modern European populations we find a lack of native South Asian genetic markets, which suggests that an "out of India" theory for IE language dispersal is completely baseless and little more than a weak, emotions-based assertion made in service of modern Indian identity politics. Ultimately ALL form of identity politics adopt the habit of making absurd and baseless historical claims. Identity politics is all about ego, as opposed to spiritual enlightenment.

Finally, linguists can generally pinpoint the region of origin of a language family by noting which region has the highest diversity of branches of that language family. Distinct branches show very old splitting within the family. For example, the Afro-Asiatic (AA) family (which contains the Semitic, Berber, Cushitic and old Egyptian languages) sees its highest branch diversity in Northeast Africa (around the Horn region and Ethiophia), suggesting the perhaps Afro-Asiatic speech began there and then later spread to other regions. The in the Middle East, all AA speech is uniformly of the Semitic branch, suggesting a single population brought proto-Semitic into the Middle East from somewhere else at some point in prehistory. Likewise, with Indo-European we see the greatest branch diversity in Southeastern Europe (which might suggest this are and not the steppes as the oldest area of IE speech), not Central or South Asia. In SE Europe we see Greek, Albanian, Thracian (now extinct), Slavic, and very close by in Anatolia we now have Armenian and we once saw Anatolian (Hittite and related tongues) and Phrygian branches. And then of course in the interior of Europe we see different branches like Romance (derived from classical Latin), Germanic, Celtic, Baltic, Slavic, ect. In Asia all we really see are the Indo-Iranian and now-extinct Tocharian branches. In other words, Asia seems to have been the receiver rather than giver of IE languages. None of these facts constitute any sort of Western or European supremacy; they're simply facts which archaeology, linguistics, population genetics and history can prove many times over.

As a final note: For those beholden to the idea that India is the font of all the world's spiritual wisdom and greatness (there's a slight hint of truth to this), the acceptance that outsider populations brought the Sanskrit language in into the Indian subcontinent is an inconvenient theory to entertain. I'll get more into why that is at a later time.
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Within many of the historical IE cultures, we find a vague tripartiate class system alluded to in old texts and traditions. The Hindu Varna structure (which Westerners call 'Caste') seems to be derived from this. Though in the most common system there tends to be only three main categories, as opposed to the four we find in classical Indian civilization. These three are:

-Priests
-Warriors
-Producers

In the most conceptual terms:
-Ethical/Cultural Domain
-Political/Military Domain
-Economic Domain

Similarly in the Varna system:
-Brahmins (Priests/Teachers)
-Kshatriyas (Warriors/Governors)
-Vaishya (Producers: Farmers/Merchants)
-Shudras (Producers: Laborers/Peasants)

Among the ancient Iranains:
-Priests (sometimes called 'Magi')
-Aristocracy (Warrior-landholders)
-Commoners (Producers: Farmers/Merchants/Craftsmen/Peasants)

Plato, in his great work 'The Republic' ressurected this ancient form and incorporated it into his concept of an ideal state:
-Guardians (Philosopher-Kings)
-Auxiliaries (Warriors/Soldiers)
-Producers (Farmers, Merchants, Artisans, ect.)

And finally, in Medieval Europe, we find a similar social structure:
-Church Clergy
-Landholding Nobility/Aristocracy
-Commoners (Merchants, Artisans, Serfs/Peasants)

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So we can see that this tripartiate class structure is a primordial form and perhaps we could say it's the sanest way of organizing society. The greatest sages and seers existed in this ancient societies (not so today!) and must have provided intellectual and spiritual support for this basic system many times over. Contrast this to the modern, industrialized West where any type of formal class distinction has been tossed to the wolves, under the guise of buzz-concepts like "liberty" .. "freedom" .. and "emancipation." Of course most liberals today will agree this dissolution has been a great thing, without of course providing any coherent metaphysical arguments to justify this position, besides maybe a "muh freedom is good and class is bad" utterance. Of course, merely getting rid of a formal social classification system does not make it go away, rather it simply remains in a less formal, less acknowledged state. So today the default system we have today, ranked in order of power, is something along the lines of:

-Capitalists/Investors, Businessmen and Merchants
-Celebrities, Mass Media Personalities and Tenured Academics
-Public Servants (i.e. Career Politicians)
-Producers (Professionals, Workers/Laborers)
-The Underclass, which includes anyone living in a community with a critical mass of people lacking a marketable skillset or ability to find steady work that pays a living wage

What we have here is a totally lopsided hierarchy (relative to the historical examples above) where various grades of apex Producers are on top, and everyone else gets sorted out in the lower layers. The "Cultural Domain" is in the second ranking and must serve the dictates of the ultra-wealthy Investor class. This cultural layer has no overarching spiritual imperative but instead is subject to the ever-shifting collection of fads that known modern pop culture and whatever ideological trends conform to this always-morphing mass culture. And of course pop culture is largely a function of big money. The old "Warrior class" no longer exists under this new arrangement, as modern armies are fully professional armies and there is no official nobility or aristocracy that exists, much less one that comprises the military's top officer corps.

Those who are well-read on Oswald Spengler and the Traditionalist authors (Guenon, Evola, ect.) will probably agree that Western European ('Faustian' as Spengler termed it) had already entered its decline phase and thus all the symptoms associated with a declining culture are loudly manifesting themselves here in the West of today. A lopsided class system is one of the primary symptoms of a culture circling the drain. Let us go back to Plato for a moment and note how he lucidly explains this decline process using the allegory of the 5 Regimes:

-Aristocratic Man: A Philosopher/Sage/Priest class guides the state according to a series of spiritual virtues.

-Timocratic Man: Landholding nobility rules and guides the state according to virtues like honor, duty, solidarity and patriotism.

-Oligarchic Man: An urban merchant class rules the state according the demands of material self-aggrandizement.

-Democratic Man: An assortment of citizen representatives from all parts of society rules the state according to a set of ever-changing popular opinions and whims, with "majority rules" being the determining factor, regardless of whatever system of morality or lack thereof the majority values; all that matters is quantity.

-Tyrannical Man: Owing to the state of total chaos Democracy ends up wreaking upon the whole of society, a single strong-man or small clique rises to the occasion promising to restore order to the state, usually employing rather draconian and bloody methods.

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We can clearly see how the above has played out in the modern West. IMHO, only a return to the ancient arrangement (1. Ethics, 2. Politics, 3. Economics) will restore true order to our disintegrating mess of a society.
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